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Thursday, May 24, 2007

Tribal Council Donations

Due to the long line of comments regarding the Tribal Council Request for donations, I would like to add this to clarify some issues. Although this information was not received through official channels, I believe them to be accurate. I will update this information as we hear back from the Tribal Council officials.

The Tribal Council is a separate entity from the Barangay Council although it is sanctioned and supported by the Barangay. This is evident by the presence of several barangay members who are also serving in the Tribal Council. Sagunto is a small town, and I believe that not many projects get past the Barangay. So there is no disrespect of the Captain here, it is simply a separate matter from the usual Barangay issues. It is prudent to have a degree of separation between the various organizations. Let's not get bogged down with whose ego was not smoothed over first. Especially since our honorable Capitan has not voiced any objections about this project but rather seems to be supportive of it as you can see in the photographs of the group.

This is a noble goal for the tribe. I noted when I was present during the Rizal Day festivities that the tribal dances were presented by a very talented group from another barangay. This thought, that "why is there not an organization in Sagunto presenting a tribal performance?", did cross my mind then. I am sure there are many talented Bagos in Sagunto who could have done as well if not better. I am glad that the Tribal Council has taken it upon themselves to correct this.

Here are some preliminary figures, to give everyone an idea how much is needed. The Bago Tribal Council requests aid in procuring the following items:
Costumes for the dancers
Gangsa - is the Bago gong (estimate cost for 12-piece set = 70,000 pesos)
Tambor - drum made of deer skin (estimate cost, 3,000 pesos)

The cost for a 6-piece gong set is estimated at 35,000 pesos. The council hopes for a 12-piece set. There are no estimates yet for the costumes and tambor. I'm sure they can't be cheap. If you have some information about these costs please share your information here.

Here are the unconfirmed pledges so far:
Mr. Henry Palit-ang20,000 pesos
Homma/Castillo/Benosa Clan (Emily)2,000 pesos
Ophelia Glasser & Family (Babot)2,000 pesos
Jeanette Moore & Family (Me)2,000 pesos
Santillano-Eisma Family (Evs)2,000 pesos
(Those named above, please confirm your pledge. If it's a mistake, let me know and I will remove it from the list)If you'd like to make a pledge, leave a comment and I will update the list.

Donations may be sent directly to the Bago Tribal Council Treasurer, Mr. Daniel Pascua, Sagunto, Sison, Pangasinan.

We thank you all for your help, and as one of our youngest members here on the blog said, "every little bit counts". So let's all pull together and help our tribe, let's show our younger generations what a proud and noble people we are.

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

wen ngarud ya agpayso katribuan taga pugo dagidiay immay nagsala idi fiesta nga napalabas ken minmayat ngem kunak ket nalalaing tayo pay a uray dagitoy KALIPI tayo ket mabalin nga isuda ti mabukel nga agsala uray siak no masapul ti bulog ket mayat ta inrugi manen appok ken annak ko ti panagurnong agpayso nga kunayo nga adu nga kantidad ngem pagbabassitan aye apay dinto ngata met mapartuwat dayta ibaga yo kada kapid ko nga Boying Annaguey ken Boying Quilaman dita Amerika baka dida ammo daytoy nga proyekto pakpakamuztaan ida ni uncle romeo da. ala aguray ta agpakaadak pay bassit ket adun ti bayadak ditoy.

kimat

Roselee said...

Thanks a lot for explaining what's the difference between the barangay council and the tribal council. I'm sure nga adu kaniatayo ti mangipagarop nga tribal and barangay council ket maymaysa.

Nasayaat met ta nailista dagita nagpledge tapno ammo tayo no sino ti singerento. Ta no dadduma naglaka ti agsao ngem nagrigat ti agaramid,di met? (No offence kuma kaniayo apo ibagbagak lang ti kapanunotk)

Adda koma madamag ko. Apay nga nagadu nga gangsa iti gatangenen?Kailangan tay ba nga talaga ti 12?

Anonymous said...

oh hi kimat you are here imbag man!ay apo how I wish I know you!

Roselee am asking that same ? before how come that they are in need of lots of gongs ngem I know it now ta no agsala ti laLLAKI MABALIN NGA ISU TI IGGEM DAN AT THE SAME TIME ITS THEIR MUSIC and okay lang but we can ask representative of Bago Council to explain us more about it for everybody's sake.

Oh no for sure pledge is pledge and it can not be broken hahahha! kanta sa met didiayen di panawen da jeanette ken uncle Dadong hahah!

eva

emily.jp said...

hello kimat, ayan mo aya tatta?
paggatangan ngata ti nalaka nga costume? If you are in sagunto now, kindly help them find better sources of gongs and costumes.
if i can take home these bronze vases and decorations to trade-in (wow nagngina gayamen ti bronze gongs tattan)...nadagsen to met.

Larry, where can I sell these bronze vases? Ilakom nga kunam? Kitaen yo dayta pictures ti E-Cordi, dita link right side, makita yo ti samples ti gongs nga usaren nga agsala. JMom, post mo ngata dyay picture ni Jay with Abra dancers...

Roselee said...

Kas ano u apo nga ammo ti estimate dagita gong? Addan ba napan nagkita mismo? Idiay nagkitaan da?

Mng Jerry no awan pay nakita da wenno na enquire da nga gong, pakibaga ken mng Irene ta kontaken da ni manang mi Fe (Anak ni auntie Arsing nga naikamang diay Lamut,Ifugao).Agtatrabaho isuna ti NFA Bontoc.Ibaga na ken mng Fe nga paki enquire na bassit no sagmano ti gongs.Pakiprint dagita pix ti gongs nga inpaw it da mng Emily then ited mo ken mng Irene tapno ammoda no ania nga klase ti Gong ti enquire da. Uray cotumes met laengen ibagam ta paki enquire na.No okay lang kanyayo apo. It's up 2 u.Suggestion ko lang daytoy apo.

I-try ko nga kontaken ni mng Faye no makontak ko.

Omom said...

Thanks Nette for the clarification. I know some people are not aware (like me) that there's a Tribal Council. Like I said, I've learned a lot since the inception of this virtual abung. That link on the Bago by Mr. Buaquen really helps explain the Bago situation.

Imbag a ta adda dagitoy elders tayo idta nga mangisuro kada tayo iti cultura nga dati tapno saan tayo nga maliplipatan no addino ti nagapuanan. It is our culture and heritage, we have to be proud of it, treasure it and protect it. Isunga uray no saga-basit ti tulung nga maited, no pagtitinulungan tayo amin nalaka nga aramiden no anyaman nga proyecto ti kailangan.

~Babot

emily.jp said...

HELLO ROSELEE, BEFORE YOU ATTEND YOUR ANNUAL SUKA MEETING AND ELECTIONS, I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT TO ALL OF YOU GUYS IN UK PLANNING FOR WONDERFUL PROJECTS FOR THE COMMUNITY. I'VE HEARD ABOUT OTHER SAGUNTONIANS' PROJECTS TOO LIKE BRGY. LIBRARY AND WATER RESERVOIR. I'M SO GLAD THESE THINGS ARE BEING THOUGHT OUT. I PLEDGE THIS LITLE AMOUNT THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO HELP RAISE THAT NEEDED AMOUNT FOR THE GONGS FOR I AM A TRADITIONAL DANCES LOVER MYSELF. GOSH, ALL THESE PROJECTS YOU UK SAGUNTONIANS ARE PLANNING ARE JUST GREAT. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE YOUR OTHER PROJECT SOLICITATIONS ESP. ON THE RESERVOIR.

ALE, INKAYO MAKIPLANO. PANGAASI YO APO. PANUNUEN TAY LAENG KOMA TI PAGREBBENGAN TI AMIN. I LOVE YOU ALL !!!!!

Roselee said...

Thanks mng Emz....crosss my fingers...

I think there's more important issue to be discussed today rather than the projects...I don't have the authority to give you the details (about this issue) because I'm not an oficer.This is a confidential matter.It's between us SUKA members only.

I'll update u later if the meeting goes well.

emily.jp said...

Just in case they'd ask about other projects ongoing, there's this Microbusiness contest sponsored by Babot, and the Green Group 3G contest nga syak met ti makin panunot. No adda met willing nga mangnayon ti funds for the grant ken prizes for the Green groups, mangited da latta ta ti na promise ko ket nga amount per winner (from my own pocket) ket saan sa nga attractive para kadagiti young groups wenno oldies. inton agawidak, ilawlawag konto kadagiti groups. As of now, only 2 group applicants have applied.

Let anyone inquiring to join or co-sponsor to read the 3G green contest announcement in this blog for further details. They may sponsor a certain prize award. Aglalo dagidiay mangayat nga malinisan ta waig, let's push them into getting more-environment friendly. Salamat apo.

Anonymous said...

ururayek ng aglukat diay shop diay laud malagip ko Domingo awan ni maestro pay gayam isu nga immayak man la ditoy Roasario nga mangikur-it ken makiinniliw ken bumisita manen kadakayo kasus kadua nga bago ti makinbagi toy internet shop ditoy ngem ti lakay na ket taga Canada met puraw nataer met ket naragsak piman nga kasarsarita ket ipalapal ko lattan ti ingles ko ket matarusanna met ni Baket na ket taga Agat. Min aduadu gayamen ti kunakunayo ditoy ket minsayaat la unay makayayo diay anak ni apok nga roselee ni marifaye mayat ta ammona piman ti naggapuan ti pulina. wen maestra Emily damdamgemkaniak ti paggatangan ti gangsa adu diay bantay saan nga Plawan a diay Baguio ipa made to order da kadagidiay agararamid ti bronse wen nangina met adda met nalaklaka ngem diyo magustuan ti uni na isu nga no gumatang diay adda kalidad nan...ngem aya ket kukuaen ngay dagitoy Conseho ti Tribu bassit nga dawat laeng met ti taga ballasiw taaw nga mangipadamag mangsirip ti kunkunada ket awan pay gungunayyo narigat ti makibiang met ta baka dakes to man da taon agsipud ta awan met di awan ken nagadalak ta mintalonak met la ngamin, ngem ala a ket di kayo maumuma annak ken appok ida dakayon ti mangawat ken itultuloyyo lattana ti ganwat yo kunak manen pagbabassitan ket umado. Ala Babot Jeanette Eva ken Emily agan anus kayo latta nga mangiwanwan ket ni kitkitaek ket adun ti nagdur-asan na toy inganuat mo Babot ale pumakadaak manen ta ni ururayenda toy tukak ken ararusip diay balay nga pangaldawan mi.
kimat

emily.jp said...

Hehe, naimbag ta adda nga dagos sungbat from you kimat. of course, the tribal council has long planned for this solicitation and search for the seller of gongs(months ago, I heard). Ask uncle henry for it's him and his team who've been suggesting to SUKA to finance this, ti nanggeg ko. No ngay adda laeng nalaklaka nga source, ta sika ket addan sa ammom dita nga paggappuan ti quality instruments. salamat ta i suggest min to dayta no agsaludsod da manen.Diay Baguio nga agpayso aya.

I remember attending a seminar for our traditional instruments in UP-Diliman before. It's where I saw lots of Ilocano and Igorot/Bago instruments that our local barrio don't use or keep anymore. Mayat koma no dagiti apong tayo dita (hello APO lakay, ayan mo ngayen?) , agurnong da ti instrumento nga kannawidan nga inususar idi, tapno no agawid dagitoy balikbayans, adda ipakita da ken annak da. Ayanna ngay dagidiay nadumaduma nga kawayan nga pinarpar nga pagtokar idi ususaren ti lallakay? Ayna apo, agurnong tayo tapno adda met ipasa tayo nga tawid kadagiti appo ken annak tayo.

emily.jp said...

Hello Admin, we need to correct the info on pledges. But wait till I inform the tribal council about the CORRECTION THE PLEDGER WANTS TO MAKE. Good you've said earlier "CONFIRM these info" calling the attenton of the pledgers. Well as you've read in the lower thread, Mr Henry Palit-Ang promised the amount for the purchase of "one set of gongs -6pcs" which now would amount to 35,000 pesos. Let us tell the council that the 20,000 pesos THEY REMEMBER promised them is wrong (now who really forgot what?) and actually a lot higher. Kitaen yo man apo, dakdakkel gayam dyay naipromise da.(Good for them...hehe, bad for us being tagged as printing the wrong info.)
Now messengers and donors, saan kay koma mauma apo nga tumulong uray ado nga hassles na daytoy.

Next time, ilista tayo apo dagidiay promises da, nakasurat wenno nakatape tapno ammo tayo ti pangibasbasaran ti information nga ireport ditoy. Salamat apo.

Omom said...

I left a message at Uncle Henry's home phone last night so I can clarify exactly what the pledge is/was/should be before changing anything. I'll let you know when I've hear back from Don Palit-Ang, hehehe...

Let's keep light and breezy, people. These are just minor snags. Life is good and so are YOU!

Anonymous said...

Wen agpayso kano diay personal promise 20,000 pesos nga pledge ni Henry. Nang-ngeg ti kaaduan imbaga na idi nagpamiting idiay balayda.

Anonymous said...

Ala umay kayon nga taga America, London, Canada, Hongkong, Israel, Macau, Scotland, Germany, Italy, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand ken dadduma pay nga lugar ta pagbibingawan tayon daytoy problema ti katribuan ta intono agbakasyon tayto no fiesta ket adda buyaen tayo nga napintas nga sala. Agparikna kayon katribuan nga bago. Uray kianganen mabalin latta ta agkakabsat tay amin awan sabsabali. Ni dipay nagrugi ti taga-Canada no irugi dan sumurot metten ti taga London siguradoak awan mintis santo America dida agpaudi ammo tay dayta. He he he.

Anonymous said...

wen nga agpayso, apay ngamin, no innem laeng ti kabaelan ti UK, maymayat, ado tay met nga mangayat ti bario. apay SUKA laeng aya ti sagunto balikbayan? malipatan yon sa ti dadduma pay nga agsangaili. maapas tay dagidiay mano nga agawid ket pulos UK met laengen ti kunkunayon.segundaak dayta konam anonymous2. maymayat no roundthe world ti agisponsor ti dayta gangsa tapno mafeel tay amin ti rambak.

emily.jp said...

Hello Roselee, hehe napanamon? Naapas kan? Hahaha, kasta talaga, no dadduma, adda argument, ne, democracy in motion kunam man. We are all free to voice out our opinions. Ali agsobli ka ditoyen ta adda pay trabahoen tayo. Saan da pay simmungbat dyay barrio ngem panpununutek, makatulong daytoy naurnong ko nga bronze vases nga pang-trade-in no mabalin para kadagiti gong makers, malpas lang dayta nga project. Agasem, naka 20 kilos sak metten nga bronze ditoy. Napanak dita antique fair ket mayat ti excursion ko di kalman, nagmawmawen ti rurod ko bwahahahaha. Umaycadtoy nga agkanta ta birbiruken daka dagitoy miron ditoy. Bay-am pay dagita lallakay ken babbaket dita ayan mo, they have their own problems hahaha. Kunak ngarud, some diseases are infectious...tagay muna dyan ng sake, antidote!

Anonymous said...

ale bagiyon ti agrarambak itatalnak la ditoyen nga mangpalpaliiw kadakayo
mayat to siguro ti mangbuybuya ti kanyaw no madanon narigat la ti adda nga biag didak to met la ikaskaso ta ania ngay ket mintalon met laeng ti nakaibatugak ket didan to met siguro ipaidam no aprusak to met ti maysa nga gangsa.
Imbag pay diay San Emilio ta mariknak ti kanabagok minmaya-mayat maalumiimak met nga makikanyaw no dagiti balikbayan ti kakadua isu nga agragsak kayto latta a dikay madanagan diak to agparikna di bale ta adda gagayyem ko diay ayan ni lakay martin ragragsaken minto la bagbagimin.
kimat

Omom said...

Ala, haan nga naapas ni ading ko Roselee. Apay ya gamin nga ibaga yo nga naapas. Nagbasit nga banag ti gansa. Matmaturog laeng ta addo met gamin ti overtime na idtoy abong. Nabannug laeng kitaen yo. No makariing ni sleeping beauty a ket adan to man idtoy nga agkankanta. Ay ading ko, mariing ka man ta umay ka agkanta, I misssss you talaga. Ni nakasaang toy kape, gimatangak pay ti paboritom nga doughnut. Hehehehe...
Hugs.
~Mng. Babot who love you :-)

emily.jp said...

maudi daytoy nga palawag kon apo, aganos kayla bassit kaniak, malpas tayon ton daytoy nga proyekto:

nangngeg ko dyay boses ni tribal chiptin tatta laeng ken rolly ket konak, mapan da ipa scan dayta maudi nga page ti letter da nga adda handwritten nga "list of items". gapu ta nakita dan dayta duwwa nga pieces, 10 pcs laengen kano apo ti kasapulan. no 6 ti ishoulder ni uncle henry, uppat laengen ti naudi pay nga pagtitinnulungan tayo. kes kas naibaga ti chiptin, 20 k ti matandaanan da talaga naibaga idi ni mr. palit-ang ta saan da pay nga ammo no mano ti balor na dayta gongs. urayen yo apo dayta ipa scan da madamdama. no adda pay saludsod yo, ideretso yon apo.

reporting at your service...dakilang utusan, ems.